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CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/04/07 12:40 AM)

I've been getting back into watching Futurama. Cartoon Network recently started from the beginning again, so that's been nice. I've now got this idea for a YTMND I'm too lazy and untalented to make involving the Whalers on the Moon song and the episode of South Park where the kids launch an Orca into space and it dies on the moon. Someone probably already did it, anyway.

I've played some more Forza, got to some tracks that I really like. I see that there's a time trial mode in this game where you have to beat the target time with a preset car, and by doing that, you can win new cars to use the career mode, if I follow correctly.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/04/07 12:43 AM)

you toipicname stealing pig! how dare yyyooouuuuu




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/04/07 12:49 AM)

But yours is more fierce.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/04/07 12:56 AM)

plagerism is PLAGERISM. HOBAG. >




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/04/07 2:13 AM)

I'm watching Dead Man's Chest and it's actually not bad so far. The only possibility is that my intelligence has deteriorated since I saw the original. That or it's a side effect from the Yuku exposure.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/04/07 2:39 AM)

Pirates 2 isn't THAT bad IMO. Its just kind of....mediocre.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1801
(06/04/07 5:18 AM)

It also loses points for having that ending. I've heard people like the second one more after seeing the third one.

Super Paper Mario - I got a bunch of cards from treasure maps, failed at another (better-prepared) attempt to get through Flopside's Pit of 100 Trials, and made a couple of recipes.




Magnus CROWE
Posts: 819
(06/04/07 9:07 AM)

Well, I completed the Rainbow Bridge and I got to the last boss of Dragon Warrior 3 and was wiped out. I leveled up a bit more and made it to his second form and was wiped out again. Time to get another Sage.
Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great. - Mark Twain




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/04/07 4:58 PM)

I started Dawn of Mana.

I'm not sure whether to be angry or sad.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/04/07 5:00 PM)

TaroSH wrote: I started Dawn of Mana.

I'm not sure whether to be angry or sad.


I really need to know. Why do you always go buy these horrible games, M'dear?




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/04/07 5:03 PM)

Because I'm a sucker :(




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/04/07 5:22 PM)

Bummerlicious.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/04/07 9:09 PM)

I went through about three boxes of old stuff, and didn't find one single videogame related note.

I did find an envelope just lying around with Guardian Legend passwords written on it, though. I have no idea if they're my original passwords, or if they're in any way complete, or what, but it might be something.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/04/07 10:25 PM)

Actually, those were River City Ransom passwords.

It turns out that RCR passwords are exactly one character longer than Guardian Legend's.

Unfortunately, I have no idea if that password sheet is more-or-less "complete".




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/04/07 11:49 PM)

I haven't done much gaming lately sadly.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/05/07 1:31 AM)

I guess I'll go ahead and see Pirates 3. I don't go to the theater often enough, so it's an excuse. And I kind of liked the second one for what it was.




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/05/07 3:08 AM)

I just played Dark Cloud for 2 hours and have rebuilt a lot of the first town, and gotten way deeper into the dungeon.

The game is scary addictive when you know how to play. I probably would play all night if I didn't have work tomorrow.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15226
(06/05/07 9:35 PM)

I finished AFDS with Ken and got to his true final stage (which is basically just a one-on-one fight with Albert...not even as hard as the preceding one-on-one with Pierre.)

Uh, that ending wasn't much more satisfying. So, did someone die in the end? And if so, was it Ellen or Ken? Or both?

I already bought all of Ellen's planes. I'm going to play through it a few more times. I need to unlock the bonus ships you get for beating it with an Element 1 and Element 2 character. And I want to unlock Jamie's hidden stage. I also think I have one more hidden stage for Ruth to unlock, but I have keep Ellen on the OCC side for that one.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/05/07 11:02 PM)

I haven't done much gaming lately sadly.

Not only have I not done much gaming lately, I don't even have any prospective games in my future, nor am I particularly desparate to play something soon.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1801
(06/06/07 5:21 AM)

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - I finished the second chapter. This is an awesome game. Someone said it was a toss-back to text adventure games back in the day, and I'm inclined to agree. It's a lot of fun.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15226
(06/06/07 8:13 AM)

Man, there's just something not right about AFDS's finale. It's like they ran out of time or money and didn't really finish it, or something. I wondered if having Ellen unlocked would give 1st Element a better ending since she replaces Jamie as their leader in the space stages, but after seeing that she didn't improve Ken's ending (and might have, in fact, made it worse), I don't really know...

And I'm still kind of pissed that I probably won't be able to unlock the Axelay.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/06/07 2:26 PM)

SotN- I explored the Inverted Library and gained about three levels. The experience points earned have really ramped up since I got here. The enemies are a good deal more dangerous too. The Inverted Clock Tower was kind of maddening. I beat the Frankenstein-like boss and got the Tooth of Vlad.

I've also played a lot of Forza, but I'm not sure of the percentage complete. The races are also getting longer, so it's taking longer to earn golds.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/06/07 6:05 PM)

Hahaha, I just discovered something redeeming about Dawn of Mana. From what I'm gathering, Mana is the collection of all that is evil with humans, and the Sword of Mana is imbued with that evil energy. I mean, we've all already known that Mana is evil for a while now, but at least Square isn't denying it anymore.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/06/07 6:16 PM)

!




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/06/07 6:29 PM)

Another thing, remember that picture Seabu posted of the tree with a face? Well, that's called the Treant and its job is to protect the world from the Mana Sword by containing it in its mouth. Shortly after you reach it the evil of the Mana Sword becomes too much for the Treant, turns it totally evil, and that's the second boss.

The first boss is a giant enemy crab.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/06/07 8:14 PM)

I think that Mana really being evil is the greatest thing to ever happen.

Also, I'm going to sue.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1801
(06/07/07 4:50 AM)

Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker - I cracked this open again in an attempt to 100% the second quest. I need the last heart piece, an entire container, and some treasure charts. I managed to get two. One I paid a great deal for, and it led me to a 1-rupee chest.

The other was a 200-rupee chest. This one was also near a smaller island, so now my map shows where the island is.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/07/07 5:21 PM)

I started Splash Lake on the Turbografx. I'm reaching a point where I'm getting pissed off with it and I'm not putting any thought into the puzzles. The game is kind of irritating, but the music is fucking obnoxious.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/07/07 6:20 PM)

I'm still exploring the inverted castle, got 3 of the pieces of Vlad so far. I've beat some other bosses that just give you life-ups, like fake Castlevania heroes and Beelzebub.

This is probably going to be a surprise considering how far I am, but I still haven't found an item to let you get through water undamaged. I guess I missed it in the first castle somewhere but I don't feel like dealing with it right now.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/07/07 6:40 PM)

I also put on Portrait of Ruin for a few minutes for the sole purpose of hearing JOHNATHAN CHARLOTTE JOHNATHAN CHARLOTTE JOHNATHAN CHARLOTTE. So it turns out that even the newest portable Castlevania looks pretty bad visually in comparison to SotN.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/07/07 6:44 PM)

This is probably going to be a surprise considering how far I am, but I still haven't found an item to let you get through water undamaged. I guess I missed it in the first castle somewhere but I don't feel like dealing with it right now.

I believe I also got through the game without finding that item, and I may have in fact beaten it several times before finding it.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/07/07 8:29 PM)

I never found that item either. I have a Japanese guide and though I can't read it, judging by the pictures it's hidden behind a smashable wall.

I beat that stupid Splash Lake game. I found a glitch in it. When the timer runs out, the board collapses and is supposed to drop you into the water. But the blocks that normally support bridges and can't ge collapsed during play still won't collapse, and if you're standing on one of those when the board collapses you'll still be advanced to the next level. I didn't feel guilty at all about using this a few times, because there's way too much going on on some of the later boards.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/07/07 9:24 PM)

I remembered a little more about that item. I actually found the area where the item is in the reverse castle even on my first time through the game. Oddly, however, I didn't immediately realize I missed that area in the normal castle! So that, to me, kind of indicated that the castle-switching idea worked. It didn't feel like a rehash, but rather that something was added.

I think I only found the item when I compared the two maps and saw there were areas in one that were uncovered on another.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/07/07 9:44 PM)

Just beat Dracula with what I'm estimating based on the last time I checked to be 150% of the map discovered. It was a pretty simple fight. I just checked out the best ending on Youtube... is the only difference really the fact that Maria goes after Alucard?




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/07/07 10:19 PM)

I think it's good that the "best" ending isn't much different than the other. A person should beat both castles to beat the game, but getting whatever percentage is necessary should really be optional, and making the "best" ending not some big deal keeps it optional.

Actually, Aria of Sorrow had a very subtle "best" ending (you might have needed 100% of the souls) that was ever so slightly different than just beating 'Chaos'. I don't even know if I picked up on the ending being different until I had it pointed out to me.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15226
(06/07/07 10:36 PM)

I unlocked some more of Brian's planes, but no Seavixen. =(




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/07/07 10:52 PM)

I tried out Vasteel, not intending for it to be my next game, just to make sure the disc worked, and it seemed unplayable.

I also couldn't even save my data because my CD system's memory is full. Not that I wanted to save it.

The plot is that an emperor of a solar system is murdered, the eldest son is named emperor but sits on his ass, then the younger son wants change and declares a coup. You choose which brother you want to play as, and it took me several minutes to decide which one to play as, though I really didn't want to play as either.

After deciding him to be the lesser of two evils, I picked the rebelling brother. It's probably logical that the game would be harder with him, but for crying out loud, my cities were all on desert, which any unit can move at least five spaces on, many more, while HIS cities were all on ice, which most units can only move one space on. Mine are also all scattered around the field, wheras his are all on one side.

And then there's combat. There are two types of fights; one to destroy a city, or just some red reactor within it, one against another robot. It amounts to standing in front of the enemy, holding the fire button, and whoever has more HP wins. If you try to be strategic in the fight, you're just going to get killed because you just can't dodge the enemy's shots.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8538
(06/07/07 11:22 PM)

I think calling whatever-it-was in Thunder Force V "Vasteel" was Working Designs reference to that game.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/07/07 11:44 PM)

I don't think I have too much interest in exploring the rest of the rooms in SotN. There's a boss or two I haven't fought, and there are achievement points for getting the 200.6%, but you know you're going to end up with one or two rooms missing and it'll be a nightmare to figure out where they are. I have most of the very easy achievements... kill 10 enemies without getting hit using just magic, just special weapons, etc. These were earned within the first hour of play. More interesting ones include beating Dracula in the intro stage without getting hit, and beating the game with Richter.

All in all, I had more fun playing this than most of the recent videogames I've completed. If this had been my first experience with the Metroidvanias, it might be a more important game for me, but as things are, I doubt I'll play it again except to earn more achievement points. The music, visuals, and control were all excellent. The game was a bit easy, even for me. I never stopped to level up, it just seemed that the game was constantly throwing level ups, health-ups, and powerful equipment at me, especially in the inverted castle. Magic spells, attack items, and the familiars all seemed like completely wasted additions. Exploring the castle was somewhat fun, but so much like the GBA and DS games I've already played that I couldn't get too much enjoyment from it. I agree that the inverted castle didn't feel like a complete do-over of the first one, which is nice.

Despite the voice acting and limited story, I was kind of interested in making it to Dracula and fighting him. I can't remember all the dialogue now, but didn't Dracula seem to not be completely evil at the end? Regardless of that, the whole thing with Soma being his reincarnation seems kind of lame to me now.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1801
(06/08/07 4:37 AM)

Super Paper Mario - I made it through the Flopside Pit of 100 Trials, only to be told that I had to do it again by the voice at the end of the line.

In other news, I got some recipes and treasures out of the way. I also found Whacka and the final recipe dish, so things are smooth sailing from here.

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - I am past the first day in Chapter 3. I have to say, Edgeworth is probably one of my favorite antagonists in a game so far. He doesn't have "minions" (yet...) but he seems to be surrounded by incompetence in a lot of situations. He manages to look cool even when he's not in control, and it's fun to watch him react to different situations.

Not to say Phoenix is any less enjoyable. I loved this style of game as a kid, and I am enjoying it just as much now.




sethrashnoo
Posts: 2190
(06/08/07 12:08 PM)

I've been playing Clockwork Knight for the Sega Saturn. It seems like Sora from Kingdom Hearts often gets credited for inventing the idea of attacking enemies with a key, but Pepper in this game uses a key for a weapon, too. I actually beat the Training difficulty, which doesn't let you fight the final boss, so I started on the normal difficulty.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/09/07 12:15 AM)

I started Portrait of Ruin for real today. It seems promising so far. You explore Dracula's Castle as usual, but by going into magical paintings, you explore environments that aren't typical of recent Castlevania games. Tonight I completed the first painting, City of Haze. There were outdoor sections and a lot of shop interiors, although it's still most of the same typical enemies. The boss probably gave me more trouble than just about anything in SotN. He had one attack where he throws heads or something at you and a hit will do 70HP damage (out of less than 200 total).

The only thing is that potions are highly effective, cost only 500 gold each, and I earned about 6000 gold by fighting through that painting.

Another painting took me to a Bob-omb Battlefield. Or maybe I'm thinking of another game there.

Doesn't it seem kind of funny that Johnathan can't really use the Vampire Killer well at all, he brags about how he's always done fine with traditional weapons instead, and yet all he brings is the whip he can barely fight with. I haven't used Charlotte much except for when her fire attacks were helpful at the very start when Johnathan was still sucking horribly.

You can press up and X to have the two do an attack together, where basically they each stab an enemy about 5 times. I guess there are going to be a handful of different combination attacks. You can also do stuff like stand on the other's shoulders to reach higher places. Maybe there will be a lot of stuff like this as opposed to the traditional powerups. Both characters level up together, which is a relief.

Oh, and you also get missions that seem like they might be pretty mundane. The first one says I have to go to town and do something stupid. I'm assuming it means going back to the City of Haze, but I'm not positive.

Regarding Clockwork Knight for Saturn, I think I saw that Gametap was going to have that soon. I'd never heard of it before.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/09/07 2:01 AM)

My A and B teams in Etrian Odyssey are pretty equal now. I took on the Wyvern and got jack shit for killing him. He has 2 drops listed in his databas entry though. I guess he's just a prick, eh? I also took on the "spoiler bosses" on BF21. It was easier than expected. B-Team +Swordy Landshark from A team didn't have much trouble. Axe Landshark's power after LV10 Hellcry+LV10 Bravery is disgusting. Crush does over 1,000 damage at times. Yay, best Hexer Armour is mine, yahoo.


What is an Etrian Odyssey? A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECERETS~




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/09/07 2:02 AM)

I want to buy a DS, but then I'd have trouble deciding between FF3, Children of Mana, Pokemon Diamond, Castlevania DoS, Castlevania PoR, or Etrian Odyssey. I could only afford one this check.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/09/07 2:09 AM)

You could go massively into debt like myself.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/09/07 2:43 AM)

EO is one the greatest games I've played in the years, so go buy the DS.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1801
(06/09/07 2:43 AM)

Super Paper Mario - Got a few more recipes, cards, and maps. I have over half of the cards left (there's the magical number of 256 in this game), about ten out of 96 recipes, and around half of the maps.

Phoenix Wright: AA - Did a little investigatin'. No notable progress.




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/09/07 4:04 AM)

TWEETER911 wrote: EO is one the greatest games I've played in the years, so go buy the DS.

Is it a game that can be played in half hour sessions? I'd mainly be using the DS to game on my lunch breaks at work for now.




da dick
Posts: 842
(06/09/07 1:38 PM)

GA:EL:
completed chitose's route. checked out her frame in the simulator mode. good speed and handling. average armour. damage is crap. according to the stats, her frame's firepower should be better than mint's, but i don't see it. maybe it's because i've been mostly using her all-range machine gun. her long-range bolt is slightly more powerful but it has a pretty slow rate of fire. her frame's really only good for support fire. and her special attack requires careful aiming. boring. going to try to speed thru ranpha's route, just so i can get to pilot her frame. the fastest meanest one which is always getting the most kills and/or highest score in the normal battle mode. would probably get myself distracted by miffy's route. accordng to wiki, her mid-game story sounds like the most romantic one... and i've been listening to too much belle and sebastian. sigur ros music goes very well with this game.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/09/07 3:55 PM)

Is it a game that can be played in half hour sessions? I'd mainly be using the DS to game on my lunch breaks at work for now.

Probly not.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/09/07 11:17 PM)

I don't expect anyone to find this too interesting, but I'm starting a new site section for the 360 Achievement Points. There's a few reasons I want to do it myself. First, if you click on the gamerscore signature it should take you to a list of games and how many points I've earned, but half the list is innacurate. I think it's because I only rarely go online with the system and it doesn't update properly. Secondly, if you click on a game to see the detailed achievement list, it takes you to xbox.com where you have to log in with a hotmail account to proceed. So I've changed the signature to link to the page on my site instead. The only annoyance is that if I go back to an old game and get new achievements, I have to manually change the specific game's page, but I'd rather do that and have it be accurate.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/09/07 11:45 PM)

My acheivements points:
two million points for beating up cb007 and stealing his lunch money




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/09/07 11:45 PM)

My acheivements points:
two million points for beating up cb007 and stealing his lunch money




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/09/07 11:49 PM)

Double posted: 15 Achivement Points.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/09/07 11:50 PM)

And I can't afford to have lunch money, I eat floor scraps. So the joke's on you!




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/10/07 1:15 AM)

DELICIOUS




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/10/07 1:44 AM)

Portrait of Ruin... I explored more of the castle (it seems more straightforward than usual) and talked to Death who really has no clue what the hell's been going on with the castle since he's been away. He then flew off in order to let me level up enough to destroy him later in the game instead of taking care of things right now. Fought a couple of easy bosses, I got some new abilities (double jump, yay) and reached the next painting, Desert Grave. I think I have 40% of the castle mapped out, but I don't know if it stops at 100% or what. You can also check completion percentages for the paintings separately, which is cool.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/10/07 2:31 AM)

Death's actually kind of hard in that game. Slightly. Maybe. For you at least.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8098
(06/10/07 2:37 AM)

I can do challenging stuff, it's just a matter of whether I have enough patience to practice or not.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1801
(06/10/07 5:33 AM)

Super Paper Mario - Well, I beat the Flopside Pit of 100 Trials. Unfortunately, it sounds like I need to go through it one more time to get the thing mentioned on GameFAQs. Right now I only got a bunch of useless (but ultra-rare) cards.




da dick
Posts: 842
(06/10/07 10:31 AM)

ferrari owners' club? you poseur!




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/10/07 5:22 PM)

I started Darkwing Duck on the NES. It's much harder than any of the Chip and Dale or Ducktales games, but for all the wrong reasons.

The main thing is the sluggish controls. There's a delay in everything, and Darkwing never wants to shoot midair. There's also the gripping ledges thing that I'm never sure is going to work.

The other thing is the hit/wall detection. Darkwing counts as a total square, including his giant hat which increases the area in front of and above him. So, he'll still get hit/stopped by an overhang even if his hat gets hit.

I've banged my way up to the final boss, and he just seems impossible.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/10/07 5:45 PM)

I just went to GameFAQs to figure out how to beat the guy, and even then the controls made it a pain in the ass.

I forgot to mention the respawning enemies. There's more than one enemy that the only way to beat them is to keep retreating, but then they'll be back where they were when you return. So your only choice is to avoid them somehow, either by going alternate routes, or jumping over them. Except most of the time you can't jump over them without help.

If I have one nice thing to say about this game it's that the forest stage was gorgeous. And the ending was kind of amusing. That's it.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8103
(06/11/07 1:43 AM)

I was trying to decide if I wanted to write a review or something for SotN. I guess I probably will, even though I feel pretty unqualified to talk about it since I didn't experience it back when it's gameplay style was not so overused.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1802
(06/11/07 5:04 AM)

Super Paper Mario - I attempted to get the last recipe I need, but it looks like it's one of those lucky things. Fortunately, the ingredient I need is really cheap.

I got a few cards, and found some treasures on maps. I only have around 8 of these left, so cards should be the last thing I need in this game.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/11/07 5:27 AM)

just wtf kind of game is super paper mario




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1802
(06/11/07 6:12 AM)

I'll break it down:

Recipes: You can have a chef cook up foods for you to eat. They help you recover HP and do other neat things like increase attack power. The last recipe I need, unlike the others, comes out right based on chance. Normally it's a thing where you just have to provide the right ingredients (i.e. a steak and pasta makes meat spaghetti). 96 recipes, some requiring two ingredients and the rest requiring only one.
Cards: Every enemy and significant character in the game has a "card." If you get an enemy's card, you can do double the damage to that particular enemy. Multiple cards increase the damage even more. There's 256 cards, which can either be purchased from a random selection or "caught" a la Pokemon. Special character cards don't have any real effect, as far as I know.
Maps: You can buy maps from a guy named Flamm. You go to where the maps say to go and use a Pixl (partner) to uncover something good. A few are duds, but for the most part, the treasures are rare (and may even include cards you can't get elsewhere). 48 maps, and treasures located throughout the game. Think Wind Waker Sea Charts and you'll have a general idea.

I wrote my last post in a bit of a rush, so I understand if it sounded garbled. I haven't 100% a game in a while, and this seems like a nice one to do it on.




SolidChocobo
Posts: 973
(06/11/07 8:32 AM)

TWEETER911 wrote: My A and B teams in Etrian Odyssey are pretty equal now. I took on the Wyvern and got jack shit for killing him. He has 2 drops listed in his databas entry though. I guess he's just a prick, eh? I also took on the "spoiler bosses" on BF21. It was easier than expected. B-Team +Swordy Landshark from A team didn't have much trouble. Axe Landshark's power after LV10 Hellcry+LV10 Bravery is disgusting. Crush does over 1,000 damage at times. Yay, best Hexer Armour is mine, yahoo.

What is an Etrian Odyssey? A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECERETS~


I just beat the Wyvern myself. I spent all of my money on healing items and then like an hour fighting him, so when it turned out I didn't even get experience out of the ordeal it was pretty enraging.

Other than that I just made it to the 11th floor.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/11/07 7:23 PM)

GJ on beatting him so early. I didn't even bother figthing him until now. And just to save you some trouble, no optional bosses give EXP. Most of them give some of the best items in the game though....but fucking Wyvern didn't give me a damn thing. Did he drop anything for you? I heard he drops something raelly good if you kill him in like 3 turns though. >_>




SolidChocobo
Posts: 973
(06/11/07 9:25 PM)

Nah, didn't get any drops from him. He wasn't actually too hard to beat from where I was in the game, all it took was a lot of money ('Cause hamaos are the best TP healing items I have available yet, but they're so expensive) and a lot of patience. I think I might've been a bit overleveled too (My party leader was at around 40 and the rest were at 30 or so).

Of course, I'm gonna wait to try and get his drops until my party can trounce him. As far as actual progress goes, I just cleared out the ant's nest.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/11/07 10:14 PM)

I've been trying to get Tweeter's Palkia, but damn, I just can't stand to play this game for more than an hour every other day. I've beaten Gardenia.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/11/07 11:45 PM)

I started up Contra and made it to the Level 3 boss. At first I shot at the eyes, then figured out that wasn't the weak point and what was.

The base was pissing me off so badly, until I eventually figured out two things - duck all the bullets instead of jumping them, and you can destroy the three-way turrets on the boss.

And no, I'm not using the 30-life code.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8103
(06/11/07 11:56 PM)

A tree... with a soul?!




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/12/07 12:14 AM)

I tried working on that yesterday, but that game pisses me off so badly. Okay, finding out Mana really was evil was hilarious, but $50 hilarious? Plus, there'll probably be some plot twist about how Mana turned evil because the Mana Tree was turned to stone and the evil Mana was part of the curse. D:

Still, I banged my head against Lufia and River City Ransom and Darkwing Duck until I beat them... granted, I didn't blow $50 on any of those...




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1802
(06/12/07 5:04 AM)

Super Paper Mario - I beat the Sammer Guy's 100 Duels. I also bought a couple of maps, and I hope I'm getting closer to beating this. I'm doing around 80 damage to most enemies.

Mario Superstar Baseball - I felt like picking this one up, and I beat DK's course on Hard. This game is absurdly hard, because it expects you to perform baseball plays that you rarely see in the MLB, and they expect you to do them on demand (meaning you have to do it while that particular character is at bat). I'm reminded of why I put this game down a year or so ago.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15228
(06/12/07 6:56 AM)

I think I'm well on my way to unlocking Jamie's secret stage in AFDS. I haven't been keeping count, but I've probably beaten about 5 missions with him already and that's the only requirement.

That should also set me up to unlock Ruth's secret mission since Ellen will still be on the OCC side, which is the main requirement for that one.

I earned some more medals. Two for Jamie, and one for Brian, and I got another of Rick's planes unlocked.




Kairobi King
Posts: 997
(06/12/07 12:11 PM)

I'm replaying Kingdom Hearts. I just fought the Final Fantasy X characters on Destiny Islands.




Facilitypro
Posts: 2207
(06/12/07 4:21 PM)

I'm not sure if my devotion to WoW is a result of the my lack of interest in console games or the other way around. Probably a little of both. I check out EGM and Gamespot, and see nothing of interest.

Anyway, our guild just cleared out Karazhan, the first endgame dungeon in WoW. This week we beat the last two bosses on our list, giving uas a full 11/11 encounters downed. One of them was a pain in the ass at first (due to the complexity of the encounter), but then ended up being one of the most fun bosses in the dungeon once we got the strat down.

One thing that's werid about WoW is it's considered pretty much mandatory to read the strategies before attempting bosses. This goes against all logic I apply to console games, in that I don't like to have things spoiled for me. But somehow it's different in WoW. Knowing what to do is far from being able to do it. I think if we didn't read the strats some bosses might be impossible to figure out. Even knowing the strat ahead of time, it took us 3 weeks (with one or two 2-hour attempts per week) to down one of the bosses.For exanple, as if we're supposed to figure out all this info by trial and error...
http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherspite

I'm sure it's possible, but it would easily quadruple the time spent learning the encounter. In WoW, you only get a couple of attempts on a boss before all the trash (weaker monsters) that come before it respawn and you have to spend another hour clearing it out again to get to the boss.

Anyway, I'm having a lot of fun with it still. Soon, we should beat the second endgame encounter featuring two long and complex fights. We almost beat the first one last week.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/12/07 8:05 PM)


SolidChocobo wrote: Nah, didn't get any drops from him. He wasn't actually too hard to beat from where I was in the game, all it took was a lot of money ('Cause hamaos are the best TP healing items I have available yet, but they're so expensive) and a lot of patience. I think I might've been a bit overleveled too (My party leader was at around 40 and the rest were at 30 or so).

Of course, I'm gonna wait to try and get his drops until my party can trounce him. As far as actual progress goes, I just cleared out the ant's nest.


Megas overlv'd. How'd you get to fricken 40 before the 3rd Stratum? O_o


I'll go out on the branch and guess you're enjoying it well?




abaxa
Posts: 13
(06/12/07 8:51 PM)

Facilitypro wrote: I'm not sure if my devotion to WoW is a result of the my lack of interest in console games or the other way around. Probably a little of both. I check out EGM and Gamespot, and see nothing of interest.

Anyway, our guild just cleared out Karazhan, the first endgame dungeon in WoW. This week we beat the last two bosses on our list, giving uas a full 11/11 encounters downed. One of them was a pain in the ass at first (due to the complexity of the encounter), but then ended up being one of the most fun bosses in the dungeon once we got the strat down.

One thing that's werid about WoW is it's considered pretty much mandatory to read the strategies before attempting bosses. This goes against all logic I apply to console games, in that I don't like to have things spoiled for me. But somehow it's different in WoW. Knowing what to do is far from being able to do it. I think if we didn't read the strats some bosses might be impossible to figure out. Even knowing the strat ahead of time, it took us 3 weeks (with one or two 2-hour attempts per week) to down one of the bosses.For exanple, as if we're supposed to figure out all this info by trial and error...

I'm sure it's possible, but it would easily quadruple the time spent learning the encounter. In WoW, you only get a couple of attempts on a boss before all the trash (weaker monsters) that come before it respawn and you have to spend another hour clearing it out again to get to the boss.

Anyway, I'm having a lot of fun with it still. Soon, we should beat the second endgame encounter featuring two long and complex fights. We almost beat the first one last week.



Congratulations on your victory Facility! I know it seems weird to read up on strats before the fight but trust me it's not confined to WoW. If you're not in the bleeding edge of raiding in EQ you can find strats for just about anything online. Failing that you can ask around until you find someone who knows. The only times you would have a problem is if the mob is obscure or new--in which case guilds jealously guard their secrets. image

It may seem antithetical in light of console games but if you're leading the raid and your guild isn't composed of dedicated raiders, wiping over and over again to figure out what you're supposed to do is extremely frustrating and you're liable to lose a good chunk of your force. In EQ most raiding nowadays is in instances so respawn may or may not be an issue. However if you fail a script and it gets badly bugged you might have to drop the expedition and request a new one. That means you have to replow through the zone. *GROAN*

Dalnoth-Vaz, leader of Triality, put it quite elegantly when explaining how his guild clawed their way to victory in the current endgame zone Solteris:

"As the leader of the guild i'd like to comment on a few things.
First, It took us nearly three months to finish the second half of the zone. For people who claim we have "Strats" between the last two events alone we died nearly 100 times and Spent over 500,000 PP as a guild together on summoning regants. Bitter people can ignorantly spread their Triality hate, Not everyone has to love us nor do I expect them to. I love the haters just as much as the players. Though you could ask anyone on maelin in the guild lobby between the hours of 6cst and 11 cst, It was raining triality every 45 minutes nightly for a long time, I am glad its over the whole guild is in a desperate need of a break."
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?start=100&topic_id=109174
Link to post, you'll have to scroll down a bit. The text has horizontal scroll because someone posted a large screenshot on that page.
DISCLAIMER: I am not nor have I ever been a member of Triality.

Good luck in your raids and may the RNG gods favor thee.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8539
(06/12/07 9:00 PM)

Maybe I shouldn't put off getting Etrian Odyssey for too long. It's also just been a long time since the community played a game more-or-less as a community (except maybe Tweeter and Codie's pokemon trading), and it seems like a lot of people are enjoying it.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/12/07 10:50 PM)

You might maybe might enjoy it, Crawland.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4211
(06/13/07 1:50 AM)

so is super paper mario just some shitty yugio game? cards?




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8103
(06/13/07 2:12 AM)

Super Paper Mario is a playable game with a miserable pile of secrets attached.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1802
(06/13/07 2:21 AM)

Super Paper Mario - I bought the last maps and am now gathering treasures. I've also got some new cards.

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - I am still on the third chapter. My suspicions were right about what was going on, but the plot was a lot more complicated than I first thought.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8103
(06/13/07 2:33 AM)

Chapters 3 and 4 of that game are great. Chapter 5 is the bonus one and it's pretty good, but it doesn't fit well with the rest. I'm eagerly awaiting the release of Trials and Tribulations in September. I usually don't look forward to games especially much, but that's a must-buy for me.

I've stalled out on gameplay. I got bored with Portrait of Ruin and I'm not sure what to work on instead. I played a tutorial mission of Descent Freespace on Gametap and it seems good, but I'm afraid it'll be more complex than I want to deal with.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/13/07 11:55 AM)

I've made it to level 6 of Contra twice, and keep getting clobbered there. On my last attempt I got past the first four stages without getting hit once, and I probably could have done the fifth one if I didn't do something stupid that cost me the Spread shot (the first time I got to level 5 I beat it without getting hit).




SETZERtheGREAT
Posts: 603
(06/13/07 12:05 PM)

After locking up on me three times, I finally got to Dracula on Castlevania and beat him. I got halfway through the second loop and it locked again. I should probably just play it on an emulator or get the GBA version.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/13/07 3:46 PM)

I finally bit the bullet and started ICO.

Holy shit, the camera manages to be even worse than Colossus's! It's mostly static (like Eternal Darkness, or I believe Devil May Cry), but you can make it point in other directions. It's often too far zoomed out to see what the fuck is going on, and you can't go into a first person mode to look around. I've also run off edges more than once because I couldn't figure out where Ico was in relation to his surroundings.

As if not being able to see anything wasn't annoying enough, the puzzles involve this albino princess who just stands there and even wanders off unless you're always holding her hand.

The enemies are black wisps in vague forms that somebody probably designed by scribbling around on their lecture notebook (one looks like a stick figure with horns) that take forever to kill.

I was about to say it looked a little better than Colossus, since the first few seconds look kind of nice and Ico's clothes have color, then it all went to hell. The entire game takes place in a gray and brown temple where all the bricks are laid out in perfect grids with a bunch of haze, surprise surprise. Another thing that didn't surprise me was that the title screen was a shot of the tample with so much bloom you can barely make out the damn thing. At least since you're inside most of the time, there's not much bloom in the actual game (I don't think)




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/13/07 6:09 PM)

Well, ICO has gotten a little better, but not much. There's some decent puzzles, but most of their difficulty comes from the camera and controls. There's also some really shitty puzzles, like one that was just pushing eight or ten lanterns to make them ignite.

Weird, I thought Revoyver Ocelot had this game on his Top 20 Soundtracks list, but he doesn't. Maybe a sign he had some brains, because the all I'm really hearing during this game is silence, blowing wind, and birds chirping. There's also some ambient flute song that plays on the save screen, and some "tense" crap when an enemy draws near.

Ico's walking animation is even more ridiculous than the wanderer's.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/13/07 11:31 PM)

Gee, I actually got stumped on two puzzles.

The answer to the first one weirdly came to me after I woke up from a nap (albeit the gist of it was different), and I'm wondering if I would have gotten that one sooner if I had payed more attention to the manual.

The other was something so incredibly stupid I don't know how I didn't get that sooner, and I'm wondering if all the other crap in the room was supposed to distract you. Then the puzzle right after that was only marginally difficult because the bloom and camera angles made it so I could barely see the ledges I was supposed to be climbing on.

It's looking to be better than Colossus, if only slightly.
Something I should mention is that you can't actually get clobbered to death in this game. You only "die" if the princess gets sucked into one of the shadow portals, or if you fall from high enough. The shadows can smack you around, but the only purpose it serves them is to get you away from the princess so they can drag her into the portal.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 1:03 AM)

I messed around with Descent: Freespace a little more, clearing a couple of early missions. Controls are a tricky issue because I'm using the Xbox 360 controller, which is fully supported. But there are so many options that you need to use the keyboard heavily as well. I suppose I could eliminate the controller aspect, but I'd miss the joysticks too much.

I've been getting into the PC version of Fable a little bit. I finished the boring intro that you have to play all the way through without a chance to save, and finished the first quest where you save people from giant wasps. I remember talking about this in another progress topic and Crawl said it sounded like the worst opening ever. It's okay. The game has wonderful visuals and pleasant music, and I've noticed several things that weren't present in the original version. This is the Lost Chapters version, which has more content throughout. After the wasps, I defended a farm against some bandits. You actually have the option of attacking the farm instead, and you would get more gold for that, but I'm trying to do the good guy thing this time around. Well, as good as someone who performs archery decapitation and favors force lightning can be.

Unlike KOTOR, it's really a minor effort to change from good to evil in this game. If you want to be evil, you kill guards and innocents for a while. There's a bounty on your head for like 5 minutes and then you're alright. To become good again, just kill monsters and refrain from murdering too many people. You can also change alignment via armor (dark leather armor versus bright leather armor) and by having an intimidating haircut/facial hair combination or not.

Fable isn't especially challenging, though it does offer some optional things. Before taking on a quest, you can make a boast. Bet 100 Gold that you'll be able to do the mission without taking a hit, for example. Or that you can do it without any protective equipment.

This seems like a game that was carefully adapted to the PC, not ported over in a rush, like Prince of Persia and Rayman. The keyboard controls are laid out perfectly so that you can control movement and access all vital commands with hardly any effort, and mouse controls are smart as well.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4213
(06/14/07 2:11 AM)

I got some moar acheivement points for beating up CB007 for the 50th time! O_o Amazin.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 2:14 AM)

I like achievement points because they allow me to squeeze more play time out of a game I would otherwise be done with.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4213
(06/14/07 3:11 AM)

cheap gameplay extenderz for games you don't like


ha




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 3:53 AM)

There is that. But they can also motivate you to do the optional tasks in games you do like, like fight a secret boss, play a different difficulty level, use a different character, etc.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4213
(06/14/07 4:11 AM)

HA! Mustard on your ham!




Emperor Darkham
Posts: 95
(06/14/07 4:21 AM)

Ham, you say?




TWEETER911
Posts: 4213
(06/14/07 5:11 AM)

UES IS SAY.




SETZERtheGREAT
Posts: 603
(06/14/07 12:05 PM)

Heh. I started playing Robotrek and just got to where Dr. Einst fails to blow open the hole in the river cave. I tried playing this game once before but never got far because I just couldn't get used to the system of upgrading the robots for battles. I also remember getting to some boss I couldn't beat. I think I must've been way underleveled or not upgrading my robot's stats correctly. I spent some time leveling up in the forest and riverbed.




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/14/07 1:35 PM)

I played Suikoden for six hours yesterday and an hour today so far. 10 hours in now. This game is a lot of fun.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 2:03 PM)

I remember the first Suikoden taking an unusually short time to complete. Twelve hours is what comes to mind, though it may be a little off. I played The original and Suikoden II in reverse order, so there was something of a "That's it...?" moment at the end of Suikoden 1.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8544
(06/14/07 2:08 PM)

I think for me it was about the length of Chrono Trigger (more like 20~25 hours) but I put some effort into earning more than the minimum number of party members.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/14/07 2:57 PM)

I believe I'm in the fourth area of ICO out of five or six (the manual lists "The Queen" although I don't know if that's just the fight with her or her own section).

I got a sword which means I'm only button mashing enemies for five seconds instead of ten or fifteen.




abaxa
Posts: 13
(06/14/07 2:57 PM)

Is 20 to 25 hours standard for RPGs this day? Maybe I'm obsessive but I easily clock in 60+ hours in most RPGs.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/14/07 2:59 PM)

Well, in THIS day and age 100+ seems to be the standard.




Facilitypro
Posts: 2207
(06/14/07 3:08 PM)

WoW: High King Maulgar down. This was one of those encounters where it was like "Wipe-wipe-wipe-Kill him with none of us dying."

We then tried Gruul, who is the second boss of that dungeon. We got him to about 67%. Gruul is one of those fights were the longer the battle goes, the stronger he gets. It's more or less a DPS (damage) race.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 3:39 PM)

I should mention that back when I played the Suikoden games, I was of the mindset that the longer a game was, the better. I now find that longer games are almost intolerable. A 70 hour game would take me months to finish, during which time I could have played a variety of shorter, probably better, titles.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4213
(06/14/07 4:26 PM)

And even now you have trouble committing to short games....




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 4:55 PM)

Yep, I have trouble commiting to just about everything. I suppose it would be more logical for me to try and find a different hobby as opposed to spending so much time enjoying so little. But I don't feel ready to move on yet. Fable seems to be sticking so far, so I'll see where that goes. It's true I've played it before, but there is a lot of new content here.

I've also started reading Lisey's Story and it seems interesting based on the first couple of chapters. Farther than I got with that cellphone novel, anyway.




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/14/07 7:03 PM)

Well I'm 12 hours in now and just heading to the cave to get the weapon to beat Neclord. I usually rush through games but I am taking my time leveling up and getting better weapons and all the 108 characters, so that might be why it's taking me longer than normal.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/14/07 8:48 PM)

ICO just hit a new level of monotony.

I had to stand on this fenced platform with the princess, and in the middle of the platform was a pole with a handle. I had to grab the handle and press Up to turn the pole around in a circle and make the platform SLOWLY rise up a rail and was sitting there for about A FUCKING MINUTE just holding Circle button and Up.

Sometimes you have to seperate from the princess because she can't climb chains, protrusions in the wall, etc. Getting her across areas she can't climb with you usually amounts to you shimmying across some pipes or chains, climbing up a wall, hopping across some platforms, pushing some blocks around, then hitting a switch to drop a bridge for her to walk across. Sometimes there's a small gap that you have to help her across by standing by the edge of your side and holding L1, waiting for her to position herself, leap, then pressing and holding Up to have Ico slowly pull her up in a TENSE MOMENT OF LIFE AND DEATH HANGING BY YOUR FAILING STRENGTH, but in fact so long as you don't accidently let go of L1 without knowing it there's no danger.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/14/07 9:07 PM)

sitting there for about A FUCKING MINUTE just holding Circle button and Up.

I wonder if Super Paper Mario's designers felt that ICO represented the best of gaming.

In Fable, I won the "Hobbes killing contest". I hope you guys weren't hoping for Sweetbee's Game Hive to update again any time soon. The first time I attempted this quest, it ended in a tie, which the game counted as a loss. For the second attempt, I filled my mind with thoughts of Sonic Heroes, Prince Watercress, and Paper Mario and I used all of my hatred to destroy more hobbes than Whisper. I then bought a tattoo and a new title for myself (Sabre as opposed to the default chicken chase) and I'm starting a quest to escort some traders through a dangerous area.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/15/07 2:34 AM)

I infiltrated a bandit camp. By infiltrate I mean crossbow decapitation of the perimeter guards, then full on melee slaughter of the rest of the bandits once I got inside. I fought a boss battle that got glitched up. You're supposed to be fighting the bandit king while surrounded by a ring of regular bandits that keep you from escaping. I ended up glitching my way out of the ring of bandits into another narrow path. The boss could follow me toward the path a little, but he'd freeze after a certain spot until I went back up to him. And it was really hard to get a shot at his back from this area, and that's his only weakpoint. So the glitch made the boss harder, but I was able to win.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/15/07 8:15 PM)

Wow, ICO is, like, SO original! There's a puzzle that exactly like the one in the same area on the other side of the castle, except, OMG, everything's mirrored! Okay, and there was an extra switch somewhere, and I had to bomb a door open instead of using a pressure switch, and I had to rotate the magnifying lens thing 90 degrees for no damn reason. The best part is the puzzles were pretty anal to begin with (press a switch to reveal some candles, light the candles.)

Now I'm at an area that starts with a bunch of cages suspended by chains above some rocks and water and I have to hop across them, then there's some plumbing I have to hit switches and drag a crate in the water to get around in and so much mist and darkness that I can barely see anything. I fell to my death, and found myself at the beginning of the swinging cages. I turned it off for now.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/15/07 9:43 PM)

I keep forgetting to mention this: the way the tiles are arranged and colored on the walls around the main gate make that area look like a giant bathroom.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15231
(06/15/07 11:30 PM)

I unlocked Jamie's true final mission and ending in AFDS. It's basically the same as the Starlight mission except you can only play as Jamie in a really crappy plane and once you beat all the crabs, you don't have to dock. Instead, a cinema takes over and Jamie basically pulls an "Independence Day". Then the game ends right there and doesn't let you go onto the space missions.

So, yeah, you need to get that if you want to unlock everything in the game, but storywise, it's better to just let Jamie go off on his own.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/15/07 11:49 PM)

I beat ICO.

There's no save points in the final area, so you have to do the entire final stretch of the game from the suspended cages to the final boss in one go.

There was an eerie part just before the final boss where you're fighting the ghosts of the horned boys who were sacrificed before you, but it's dragged out for too long and it didn't amount to shit.

I died twice against the final boss. I was way overthinking in that fight. I saw a chain and a button of sorts above her throne, but in fact she's beaten in a way so completely idiotic and obvious I don't know why I didn't continue on with that, granted my fiddling around let me figure out what the statues were for.

That reminds me, in Colossus I think I identified what all of the colossi were supposed to be except the 3rd/Swordsman one. Well, now I believe it's based on those statues in the Queen's room, or at least its face is.

The ending is one of those "the spiritual ruler of the castle is gone, and that makes the castle collapse" endings, and at least when Ocarina of Time, Alundra, and Vagrant Story all did it they were doing it for a reason instead of "we want you to feel something for this magnificent structure that's falling". There's a sub-plot to the ending where if you pretend it makes any kind of sense it's actually kind of touching, but then it's completely shot at the very end. Highlight for spoilers:

The princess was turned to stone in preparations for the queen to take over her body. After Ico kills the queen, she snarls that the princess will never be able to leave the castle, and when she vanishes Ico is smashed against the wall and we assume he's dead. The statue of the princess is electrified by the tombs of the sacrificed boys and she turns into a black shadow - er, did the Queen take her over, or is she the new ruler of the castle, or what? Well, she walks into the Queen's chamber, carries Ico off to a boat, puts him in, pushes it off, and says something in her language which appears as a bunch of symbols so we don't know what she's really saying, but we'll just assume it was "I love you" because she's bound to the castle, even though it's collapsing for no damn reason. Then the credits roll, and at the end Ico's boat washes up on some randomass beach with white sand caused by the lighting, he wakes up, and you have to run around as him for a while. After about two minutes of running along the beach, you FIND THE FUCKING PRINCESS WASHED UP ON THE OTHER SIDE. Okay, she has some color now, but what the fuck? Then it just cuts to a black screen with "FIN" and then the title screen.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8108
(06/16/07 12:28 AM)

Fable... I'm kind of obsessed with this game right now. I'm having more fun with it than I did on my first time playing it. Maybe it's because it was originally hyped as a fully nonlinear Morrowind killer at the time when that's just not the type of game it is.

I absolutely love the game world. It's really a beautiful place to explore especially compared with the current trend in game visuals. There isn't a whole lot of music variety, but most of what's there is really good.

I just finished an optional quest to rescue three prisoners from that same bandit camp from earlier. It was a little harder than expected. They're scattered about the camp, and when you free each one, every bandit in the camp that you've already killed respawn. I'd fight my way to one, free him, and tell him to wait there. Once all were freed, then I killed all the bandits in the camp so I could go fetch the prisoners and casually walk out.

I'm mainly focusing on physical strength, but I love using the crossbow to snipe from a distance. I've also got a few spells. In trying to keep with playing a good character, I've stopped using the lightning. It's not considered an evil spell, but it's kind of Sith-like. Instead, I got a spell called Divine Fury to punish the wicked with.

The way you level up- picking between Strength/Toughness, Magic, and Stealth/Archery gradually changes the look of your character. Toughness makes you more musular, magic changes your hair color and you get glowing runes on your skin, and archery makes you taller. You also age during the course of the game and get scars if you take a lot of damage frequently.




SolidChocobo
Posts: 973
(06/16/07 4:36 PM)

CLOUDBOND007 wrote:

In Fable, I won the "Hobbes killing contest". I hope you guys weren't hoping for Sweetbee's Game Hive to update again any time soon. The first time I attempted this quest, it ended in a tie, which the game counted as a loss. For the second attempt, I filled my mind with thoughts of Sonic Heroes, Prince Watercress, and Paper Mario and I used all of my hatred to destroy more hobbes than Whisper. I then bought a tattoo and a new title for myself (Sabre as opposed to the default chicken chase) and I'm starting a quest to escort some traders through a dangerous area.


You son of a bitch! I'm gonna go play Hammerin' Harry and go get like 50 game overs!




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/16/07 4:45 PM)

Random Note: I kept saying it was L1 that you used to call and hold the princess. It's R1.

Overall, ICO was better than Shadow of the Colossus, but it was pretty mediocre whereas Colossus was just plain bad.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15234
(06/16/07 5:25 PM)

Flying Omelette wrote: I unlocked Jamie's true final mission and ending in AFDS. It's basically the same as the Starlight mission except you can only play as Jamie in a really crappy plane and once you beat all the crabs, you don't have to dock. Instead, a cinema takes over and Jamie basically pulls an "Independence Day". Then the game ends right there and doesn't let you go onto the space missions.

Really, this was just so completely pointless. Even if it was rather unbelievable, at least Independance Day had a reason for why Randy Quaid does that (everyone else was out of missiles and his locked up). But in AFDS, couldn't someone else have shot the crab off the runway? And how does crashing your plane into it clear the runway? Wouldn't there now be both a crab and a plane on the runway?




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/16/07 6:05 PM)

I made it to Level 7 of Contra and got it royally handed to me. I figured out too late that you could shoot out those spiked walls and stand on the very bottom floor which I originally thought was electrified. I think I got a fair distance into the level before I lost my last life on my last continue.

And I'm still plodding away on trying to get Tweeter his Palkia although he's probably so busy with Etrian Odyssey he forgot anyway. I'm to Solaceon Town now!




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/16/07 6:12 PM)

No, I haven't fergot. I have a memory card in my brain.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/16/07 6:18 PM)

At this rate, I should have it to you in a month!

Granted, when I played for mine the first three gyms took me a couple weeks, then everything between that and Palkia took me two days.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/17/07 1:05 AM)

Killed the "last boss" in EO. Of course, its not really the last boss, killing him gets you the credits though. There are 5 extra bonus floors of pain to test your skills on after you kill the "last boss".

He was a roughy. O_o




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/17/07 1:15 AM)

Also, just remade Wyvern my bitch, and he DROPPED something this time. Got his ass in 3 turns, too.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/17/07 3:34 AM)

I just fought in the Arena in Fable. I ended up killing Whisper in the final battle. It was a hard decision since I was playing a good character. But it was a lot of money, she was very annoying and did plenty of bad stuff earlier in the game, and arena battles do tend to be to the death anyway. I guess I was kind of right on that since I didn't get any evil points for doing it. Her brother kind of wants to murder me now, though.

I can't remember the exact phrasing, but earlier, the arena announcer said something along the lines of: "Now for round 2, everybody's favorite, the disgusting, smelly Hobbes!"

I bought a freakishly expensive sword with the money I made at the arena. Jack of Blades is almost another Dark Lord. Everybody loves him even though he could be the grim reaper if he wore black instead of red. He's got an evil voice and a scary mask with creepy eyes showing through.

http://www.cb007.com/images/jackofblades.jpg




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/17/07 4:09 AM)

Drak Lord 2.o?




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/17/07 4:26 AM)

We can rebuild him. We have the source material. We have the capability to make a supreme overlord. Dark Lord will be that man. Better than he was before. Darker, Lordier, Faster.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/17/07 4:43 AM)

Crusader of Right, DESTROYER OF EVIL MANA ENERGY!



Also, go read my LJ or something, Sea Boo. DO IT! IT'LL CURE YOUR SLEEP AND STAMINA PROBLEMS!




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/17/07 1:33 PM)

You should repost some of your EO progress here.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/17/07 5:38 PM)

My in depth EO progress in a LJ exclusive feature...kind of like how MGS4 is the only PS3 exclusive left. HAW! >_>

I may post my characters here one day.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/17/07 9:15 PM)

I beat Contra!

I thought the final boss was going to Game Over me because in the hall before it a facehugger from nowhere took my Spread shot, but I beat him on my last life.

I think I may have Game Overed only once on this play (at the boss of Level 7)

I liked it. Even with the Spread shot it definitely required me to learn some stages like Level 6 which massacred me the first few times I got to it, but then I go through it dying once if at all on this play, and had some surprises in store like thinking I was going to die when I hit Level 7's floor only to find out it was normal floor that was flashing for effect I guess.
And I beat the third gym leader in Pokemon Pearl.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/18/07 4:50 AM)

Got several rare drops in EO, like Ogre, Hunter, and Iwaopeln's rare drops. Sweet items are made now.




SETZERtheGREAT
Posts: 603
(06/18/07 12:08 PM)

I made it to that same Crab boss in Robotrek that I couldn't beat before and I still can't get past it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but he seems awfully powerful for a first boss in this game. I also attempted to get back into SaGa Frontier 2, but that game just pisses me off to no end. Man, I ended up with a lot of stinkers in the Playstation era due to my inexclusive method of buying RPGs.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/18/07 12:17 PM)

I remember that crab boss. I beat him by spamming bombs.

I got the fourth gym badge. Tweeter just might have his Palkia in a couple of days!

Yesterday I bred up a Modest Nidoqueen in Ruby so I can transfer it to Diamond and teach it Earth Power and Sludge Bomb (the former it learns through levelup, the latter a TM). I'm trying to breed a Modest Milotic, but I keep getting Hasty and Serious and other stupid Natures.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/18/07 5:21 PM)

can i have the extra tirio as well, m'dear? :3

also, modest is so impossible to get sometimes




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/18/07 6:06 PM)

An extra set of Mespirit, Uxie, and Azelf? I didn't even catch them in my previous Pearl, but...

I haven't even caught the Mespirit on Diamond.

By the way, did you try the item cloning thing?




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/18/07 11:16 PM)

no, i've been too busying playing EO, ha. its a few pages back right? >_>




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/19/07 1:36 AM)

I want to play Etrian Odyssey so bad, but I'm afraid if I take Pearl out of my DS it's never going to get put back in.

I'm so sick of riding my bike in circles hatching Feebases (...okay, now I know why Tweeter uses the names as both singular and plural) trying to get a Modest Milotic (I really should be doing this on Emerald so I can have a Numel with Flame Body or whatever halve the hatch time), so I figure I'm going to have to settle for Timid or Bold.

Now I want an Adamant Torchic (Blaze Kick, Brick Break or Sky Uppercut), and the first one that hatched was Modest. This game hates me.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/19/07 1:56 AM)

I didn't get the newest EGM and it's such a hassle to get assistance with that. I e-mailed EGM customer service and they said my subscription expired a long time ago. But I renewed it or resubscribed through amazon.com in December. I called Amazon and they said they'd connect me to the subscription place, but then the line went dead. So I found a special number to call for magazine issues and they asked for a 9 digit subscriber ID number but couldn't tell me where to find it except on the magazines, which I throw out after reading. Supposedly they're going to work on it now. I'll probably just buy one off the shelf if I feel like reading it, but it's annoying. I remember Nintendo Power would just send a new one out with little trouble.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1804
(06/19/07 2:20 AM)

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - I am up to the last day of trials in Chapter 4. It's going to be an intense one; I can tell already.

Star Fox: Assault - I found all five flags on Sauria.

Super Paper Mario - Got some cards. One was hidden in a stage I didn't explore fully; it was where I had least expected, too.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/19/07 6:03 AM)

TaroSH wrote: I want to play Etrian Odyssey so bad, but I'm afraid if I take Pearl out of my DS it's never going to get put back in.

I'm so sick of riding my bike in circles hatching Feebases (...okay, now I know why Tweeter uses the names as both singular and plural)


EO is brutal, are you MAN ENUFF 2 HANDLE IT??!?!?!Hoowaa

Inuid. Most Pokemon sound really wierd pluralized.




ErniePants
Posts: 501
(06/19/07 12:02 PM)

I conquered 8 galaxies and four minor solar systems in my absence.




Psycho Penguin
Posts: 161
(06/19/07 5:38 PM)

Well I just beat Suikoden




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/19/07 8:40 PM)

I'm on my way to Snowpoint, so Tweeter should have his Palkia tonight or tmorrow.

Though if he wants it to be easier for me, he could evolve my Machoke. >_>




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/19/07 8:53 PM)

Machoke, Gengar, Elctabuzz, I'll ebolve anythang fer yoouu. : )




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/19/07 9:11 PM)

Just the Machoke for now.

Got a time in mind?




SolidChocobo
Posts: 973
(06/19/07 9:14 PM)

Just started the first bonus floor of Etrian Oddyssey myself, it seems pretty tough, even with a maxed out party. It looks like I'm going to have to go train a volt based alchemist to deal with those crabs.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/19/07 11:58 PM)

I'm on my way to Snowpoint, so Tweeter should have his Palkia tonight or tmorrow.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070618.jpg




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 12:07 AM)

Even though I know what Roselia, Ghastly, and Luxio are, and the breeding inner workings, some of that is still gibberish.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1804
(06/20/07 2:11 AM)

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Finished the fourth chapter. Almost failed it until I accidentally scrolled over the most vital piece of evidence. Liked the ending.

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - I cleared Chapter 2 in a new game. I had an urge to play this game for a while, and had some free time this afternoon.




ErniePants
Posts: 501
(06/20/07 12:08 PM)

Psycho Penguin wrote: Well I just beat Suikoden

I beat Suikoden a long time ago, but got about halfway through Suikoden 2 and quit for some reason. Should probably finish that up. Etrurian Odyssey sounds really interesting but I've never been one for those map-making RPGs.




Gengarian Junus
Posts: 669
(06/20/07 12:29 PM)

I've been playing Pac-Man on Namco Museum Vol. 1. I've gotten as far as the board with the melon. I have some strategies that work well for the early boards and I'm pretty good at remembering them.

Does anyone know if the 9th key glitch is on this version or if they fixed it? If it's arcade-perfect, I'm assuming it's still there.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 2:59 PM)

I'm raiding Galactic HQ now. I'm thinking of starting Odin Sphere soon.

I think Dawn of Mana has hit its point of no return.




CRAWLand1000
Posts: 3421
(06/20/07 3:25 PM)

Gengarian Junus wrote:
Does anyone know if the 9th key glitch is on this version or if they fixed it? If it's arcade-perfect, I'm assuming it's still there.


I'm not sure what the "9th key glitch" is.




Gengarian Junus
Posts: 669
(06/20/07 3:59 PM)

Maybe I'm confusing it with the 255th board?




CRAWLand1000
Posts: 3421
(06/20/07 4:04 PM)

I think so.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 6:20 PM)

"I'm thinking of starting Odin Sphere soon."

Don't.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/20/07 7:04 PM)

But it's so perdy.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15234
(06/20/07 7:15 PM)

Well, what's the glitch? The split screen happens at the 256th board. At the ninth key, Pac-Man slows down, but I don't know if that's actually a glitch or was done on purpose (though it seems an odd thing to do...)




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 7:28 PM)

"But it's so perdy."

Final Fight with a facelift.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 7:36 PM)

Well, damn, Rogue Galaxy, then Dawn of Mana, now Odin Sphere. :(
Oh well.

I just need to scale Mt. Coronet, but the DS is charging right now.

I googled the 9th Key thing for Pacman, and it brought up a video where the person collected 9 keys, and the ghosts weren't affected by the large dots.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8551
(06/20/07 7:43 PM)

Boy, Google Image Search sure doesn't help find information on Odin Sphere.

The pictures that come up are:

-.hack // GU box art
-Some Mega Man Yaio Club banner
-Some wizard guy throwing up devil horns
-Kingdom Hearts II box art
-Rogue Galaxy box art
-A giant NES Mario superimposed on some screenshot
-Bully box art
-Michael Jordan
-Grand Theft Auto III box art
-Some Pokemon Art
-Harvest Moon DS box art
-Some overhead (like Spy Hunter) car game
-Some unidentifiable CG art

And that's just the first page! I don't know if any of the pictures have to do with Odin Sphere.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 7:52 PM)

You didn't get the Lufia screenshot?

The official site has some screenshots. There's some more in the Character profiles under "Characters".
http://www.atlus.com/odinsphere/world/world01.html

Even if Odin Sphere is just a button masher, I'd like to play it just to see the purdy graphics, and hopefully Hitoshi Sakimoto didn't bite the forgettable ambient bullshit bullet for it like Kenji Ito did for Dawn of Mana.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/20/07 8:04 PM)

You can find trailers and gameplay videos for it on YouTube easier than images on Google.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 8:49 PM)

OS music=mostly awesome. Gameplay=dissapontment even by button masha standerds. Graphics=not as good as you'd think. Voice ACting=mostly awesome, except for the first character you play as, who has a boring voice. Story=mildy interesting, I guess. Slowdown during bossfights=criplin.


I'll be on rest of night if you want a bidoof, bad game player lady.




Crawl and 1OOO
Posts: 8551
(06/20/07 8:56 PM)

Well, I just watched this Odin Sphere YouTube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MIGrKAjJGg

Not only does the fighting look like button mashing, it also looks really slow, stiff and awkward.

The graphics also don't really look all that great to me. It's still based on old technology, like sprite chains.

IGN's review has another cliche for an introduction:

I don't want to sound imperialistic, but it's about time that Japan gives up some of the games and exclusives that they've been holding onto before we Western gamers declare war. Think about it: while we might receive a second disc for a Collector's Edition, Japanese gamers often get soundtracks, action figures, bonus controllers, or other tchotchkes for a title. What's more, Japan holds onto action titles, shooters and tons of RPGs that Western fans are forced to import if the ever want to experience them. C'mon, Japan! Give us a break here! Take Princess Crown, for example. Atlus released this popular title only in Japan for the Saturn in 1997 and ported the game over to the PSP two years ago. The side scrolling action RPG set in medieval times with multiple sidequests and massive enemies made players eager for a sequel, although early signs pointed to the sequel being restricted to Japan yet again. Luckily, Atlus decided to throw us a bone by releasing the spiritual successor to the game, Odin Sphere in North America, and PS2 owners should thank them for it: this is one of the best action RPGs that's been released for the console.

Not only is it an example of the "talk for a paragraph about something that doesn't really relate to the game being reviewed", but the "use an introduction to complain that Japan gets more Japanese games than America does" is a specific cliche.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 9:07 PM)

This and Dawn of Mana are why I need to stop getting excited about games.

Tweet, is there a range of natures you want (I imagine Attack down, anything else Up would be fine) for Palkia, or do you just want to take what you can get? I stupidly saved right after catching mine, and it's Jolly. It's better than, say, Adamant, but that's still a bad tradeoff (Sp. Attack Down, Speed Up)




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 9:10 PM)

Good jeroeb Crawland, hit nail with the head.


Doesn't matter, I guess. I don't reallly use Legendaries anyways. >_>




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 9:14 PM)

I usually level mine up for the hell of it, maybe in case I ever wanted to have an all-legendary battle with somebody, but I'd actually rather use "normal" Pokes.

Should we arrange for the transfer in one to two hours? The DS still wasn't charged last I checked but I can just play with it plugged in.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 9:15 PM)

1 or two hours sounds fine. Is the pink sexmachine dragon all i'm getting tonight?




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/20/07 9:19 PM)

I've generally been playing Fable. I'm about to the point where the original version of the game ended. If I'm understanding right, there should be additional quests available after the original ending. I plan to elaborate later, but I've been having a pretty good time playing.

I also found New Super Mario Brothers which I had lost several months ago. Those game cards are so small. I might play it again and try to unlock more stuff. The controls feel more awkward than the first time I played it, though. Mario just doesn't seem to respond quickly enough to button presses.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 9:22 PM)


I got rid of my NSMB, but for some reason I regret it. I've been thinking recently that a "little mario only" game might have made the game maybe challenging. maybe. Possibly.




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:14 PM)

I caught it, and it's Adamant, and even though you said it didn't matter that's still pretty weak. I haven't saved yet, I just have the DS in sleep mode.

Unless you can send me a Turtwig (preferrably Adamant), I'm giving you a Palkia and having you transfer my Turtwig to Diamond is all.

I still never figured out what that Misdreavus had, but I guess you can just send an empty-handed Misdreavus to Diamond.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:16 PM)

Eh, I guess you try for something no so sucky. :O




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:25 PM)

Impish? Sp. Attack Down, Defense Up?




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:27 PM)

not too bad, guess it'll do




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:29 PM)

oh and uh, i'm ready whenever ye are




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:31 PM)

This thing does not like to be caught with a Nature that doesn't lower its Sp. Attack (mine's Jolly).

I'd be happy to try for something that doesn't lower Sp. Attack, except my ability to catch the bugger is determined by my Luxray's ability to paralyze it with Spark before it wipes me out with Spacial Rend (which Luxray can survive if it's the first attack, but not if Palkia already hit it with something else and I was stupid and didn't bring any potions).




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:32 PM)

Hmm. I've got all night, you can keepa trying. ;O




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:35 PM)

I already saved and got my Friend Code : \

It's 5455 6383 3816. I, uh, need yours yet again.

Are you sending your own Turtwig to Diamond, or am I transferring my Grotle?




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:38 PM)

ah. well anyways.
well do you want your own turtleood or a new one turtledood?

and maybe you should write my fc down

http://cards.pokecharms.com/create/6ca20ed8e812af46526009e3a95108f1.png




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:43 PM)

Well, an Adamant or Impish Turtledood would be nice since it'd also levelup faster, but if you don't got one I can send over mine and breed my own.

Also, mute your DS when we do this. My mother's babysitting and the little shit is throwing a fit.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:46 PM)

I don't have either. Got a hastey. :/


Aaaww no talkie. :'(




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:49 PM)

Well, the little shit is terrified of cats and they're closed up because of that, so it's not like I'd be doing my Mario voice.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:50 PM)

Terrified of cats? Kick his sissy ass. Still....no talkie...:"(


also,connnection errors, augh!




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 10:54 PM)

Actually, he's shut up now, so maybe we can talkies.

If you don't mind Jafar in the background.




Flying Omelette
Posts: 15234
(06/20/07 10:58 PM)

Well, I unlocked some ship called the Jerry Mouse in AFDS. It appears to be from an arcade game called Ajax:

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=A&game_id=6837

Yeah, the plane does look like that.

I won some more medals, but I'm a little concerned that I haven't been unlocking any normal planes lately. I'm wondering if it's because I'm using the special planes to complete missions too much. I'll go back to using the normal planes for awhile and see if that speeds things up.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 10:58 PM)

Jafar is a n00b. o_o




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/20/07 11:06 PM)

Yay, now I can play Etrian Odyssey, or reteach myself the value of rentals!




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/20/07 11:07 PM)

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CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/20/07 11:43 PM)

or reteach myself the value of rentals!

I want to do Gamefly again SO bad. It's just so hard to work a full week and also finish the games fast enough for it to be a good deal.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/21/07 12:45 AM)

Well, in Fable, I beat Jack of Blades, the original final boss. There's a choice between good and evil at the end with an immensely powerful weapon to win if you choose evil. I picked good, though. The original game had the credits role, had a brief bad ending, and then let you wander around with little to do, since the guild of heroes was in ruins and there weren't any major quests to work on.

This game skips the credits, has the guild rebuilt with new optional quests available, and has a new expansion storyline start with an even greater threat appearing. The game was nice and let me get a super-sword for do-gooders that wasn't in the original game.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/21/07 12:53 AM)

you killed dark lord 2.0? you bastich




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/21/07 1:05 AM)

He was a coward. He flies up in the air where you can only hit him with bow and arrow and then sends infinite minions after you and casts spells instead of fighting you himself. I think he might somehow be the boss of the expansion though, even though he's dead.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/21/07 3:02 AM)

That's megas lame. What if you have no bow? O_o




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/21/07 4:07 AM)

Right before you enter the room where the battle is, you walk past a dead soldier guy (I guess Jack killed him) and there's a crossbow with the body. It's so convenient that it's funny.

You might be able to hurt him with magic instead of a bow, but I never leveled up my magic. I've mainly just got force lightning that does almost no damage.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/21/07 5:01 AM)

HA! That's so silly. Also.....why is a guy called Jack of Blades a wizard dood and not a swordfighter? LAME.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1804
(06/21/07 5:24 AM)

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - I finished the first day of investigations on Day 5.

I can tell already that this is an extremely tacked-on chapter. The art style for these new characters is different, and the whole thing has an Americanized feel. Is it bad that I notice that? I do admit that it was nice to see Edgeworth's office and the jokes made throughout it. At least that area stayed true to the series.

This has been a thoroughly enjoyable game. Not quite as thrilling as, say, Twilight Princess, but if this game had more cases, this would be top in my book.




Gengarian Junus
Posts: 669
(06/21/07 12:04 PM)

I was talking about the screen glitch. I confused that with the ninth key board which I think the infamous thing about that level is that the ghosts no longer turn blue when you eat a power pellet.

I got to the first key level on Pac-Man, but I don't think I'll get much farther without cheating and looking up patterns. I'll certainly never get to screen 255 without doing that...




CRAWLand1000
Posts: 3421
(06/21/07 12:29 PM)

Supposedly, the guy who played a perfect game of Pac Man does not use patterns.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/21/07 6:48 PM)

I think he (Jack of Blades) might somehow be the boss of the expansion though, even though he's dead.

Beware, he lives...




TaroSH
Posts: 1385
(06/21/07 7:43 PM)

Because I'm stupid, I played Odin Sphere.

It's great how when you buy something, you actually have to pick out which coins to give the guy instead of just having that amount deducted from a GP total.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/21/07 8:47 PM)

Certain shops only take certain coins. And, don't waste money on items unless its a bag. most items suck.




CLOUDBOND007
Posts: 8119
(06/21/07 9:01 PM)

I beat Jack of Blades again, this time as a dragon. He's enormous, looks impossible to kill. Breathes fire, flies around, uses amazing spells. I cast berserk which increases your power and some other spell that lets you hit four times for every sword strike. Jack died in less than 25 seconds. I had the choice of keeping his mask with the promise of godlike power or throwing it away. I tossed it out because I figured wearing it might make me as pathetic as him. I guess I'll have to beat him again and watch the credits if I want to keep doing optional stuff. In any case, game defeated, I win.




TWEETER911
Posts: 4216
(06/21/07 9:43 PM)

Lamer than before.




Bomberguy221
Posts: 1804
(06/22/07 3:07 AM)

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Finished the first day of the trial in Chapter 5. I think I figured out why the sprites look different. The other sprites are outlined in black, but the chapter-specific ones are outlined in a darker shade of the color next to it. Oh, and the evidence examining thing I have in this chapter would have been unbelievably useful in Chapter 2.




Gengarian Junus
Posts: 669
(06/22/07 12:02 PM)

CRAWLand1000 wrote: Supposedly, the guy who played a perfect game of Pac Man does not use patterns.

Well, fuck!

But isn't there some controversy over that issue? I thought there was no real proof that he did it and no one has since been able to duplicate it.